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We've been watching the transformation of Job from depressed atheist through Jordan Peterson phenom to church membership as an atheist to leadership in the Discord server to possibilities of leadership in his local church. Job's been very transparent about this whole process. I thought it would be fun to sit down with Rod Hugen from The Village in Tuscon, John Van Donk from Crosspoint in Southern CA, and myself just for a fun chat. Job wanted to use the time to reflect on how the strange events of the Jordan Peterson phenomenon have changed our lives over the last two years with my videos and the meetups we've started. I thought it was a great topic so why not. This is where the conversation went. Rod Hugen can be found at The Village on Tucson http://www.villagersonline.com/ John Van Donk hosts meetups https://www.meetup.com/Jordan-Peterson-Inland-Empire-Meetup/ Job is easily found in the comments or on the Discord server (see link below) Notes Outer court ministry What I'm personally very interested in, gentlemen -- is how each of you has been experiencing this movement over the last two years. What have you found? Where do you think it is going? What role should you play? What role might the church play? Surge of atheist seekers More socially acceptable of being atheists Depression and the grand search for meaning Searching for big T Truth 4 ways of knowing, procedural, propositional, perspectival, participatory Crc The Ordination of (still sort-of-atheist) Job The resurrection and the Salton Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea Click here to meetup with other channel viewers for conversation https://discord.gg/2uUhZBK The link will prompt you to download the software for this free group messaging service. This link updates every 100 users so look for the most recent videos if this link doesn't work. If you want to schedule a one-on-one conversation check here. https://paulvanderklay.me/2019/08/06/converzations-with-pvk/ For the audio podcast mirror on Podbean http://paulvanderklay.podbean.com/ To listen to this on ITunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/paul-vanderklays-podcast/id1394314333 If you need the RSS feed for your podcast player https://paulvanderklay.podbean.com/feed/ To support this channel/podcast on Paypal: https://paypal.me/paulvanderklay To support this channel/podcast with Bitcoin (BTC): 37TSN79RXewX8Js7CDMDRzvgMrFftutbPo To support this channel/podcast with Bitcoin Cash (BCH) qr3amdmj3n2u83eqefsdft9vatnj9na0dqlzhnx80h To support this channel/podcast with Ethereum (ETH): 0xd3F649C3403a4789466c246F32430036DADf6c62 https://www.patreon.com/paulvanderklay Also on Lbry: https://beta.lbry.tv/@paulvanderklay Join the Sacramento JBP Meetup https://www.meetup.com/Sacramento-Jordan-Peterson-Meetup/ ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgmmw65DIU

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