The sound isn't great so here is a transcript. I was pulled over by UT Police. At 2:04 she asks, "where is your...are you armed right now?" "yes," I reply. FO: "Okay, where is it at?" Me: "Does that matter?" FO: "Yes sir, it does matter." Me: "Well, I'm not required to answer that question." FO: "Okay, do you mind stepping out of the vehicle for me?" Me: "Yes, I would mind." FO: "Okay, I know you have a weapon in the car and for my safety, I would like you to step out of the car." Me: "Well, for my safety, I'm staying right here." FO: "You're failing to tell me where the gun is at." Me: "I'm not required to tell you." FO: "Well, I need to know." Me: "I will keep my hands where you can see them. I'm a CHL holder so you know I'm a law abiding citizen." FO: "Yes, I understand. Would you step out of the car for me?" Me: "No I will not." She then proceeds to call in my driver license information while I continue to pull up my insurance on my phone. At 3:48 I show her my proof of insurance on my phone. Female Officer: "Is there some reason your hands are shaking? Are you nervous about something?" she asks. Me: "Of course. You guys are trying to disarm me. Of course I'm nervous." FO: "I'm not trying to disarm you, I'm trying to..." Me: "But, you're trying to force me out of my car when I don't have to get out of the car." FO: "Did I force you at all?" Me: "Ma'am, I feel threatened." FO: "Wow." Me: "Yes." She then gets on the radio and reports that I refuse to get out of the car or tell her where my gun is located. Then the male cop leans into the window and says, "You realize as a CHL holder you're required to comply with reasonable requests of a peace officer." Me: "And I'm not required to tell you where my gun is and it's not a reasonable request to get out of the car so you can disarm me. If you can show me the law where I'm required to tell you where my gun is, I'll do so." MO: "It is a reasonable request and you're required to do so as a CHL holder." Me: "Sir, I know the law, here let me show you my card. I'm reaching into my center console to get my card and I have no gun there." (Notice the female officer then place her hand on her gun and unsnap.) "This way you know who I am. I know the laws. I lobby for them. I fight for them, so I know every word in the CHL law. It says nothing about obeying 'reasonable commands of a peace officer.'" The male officer then continues to try convincing me that I'm supposed to tell him. At 6:08 I begin educating him that the conviction of license holders is less than one quarter of one percent while the conviction rate of the law enforcement community is about 2% and that I'm not the problem or the guy they should be afraid of. 9:32 Male Officer: "Let me look up something real quick." Female Officer: "What all ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzgM05B4K4Y

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