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1B) QIBLA: Could PETRA be the earlier MECCA?
We now move on to the 2nd part of the talks on the Qibla. While Dan Gibson was investigating his material on the numerous wrongly placed Qiblas he noticed that many of the areas in present day Mecca had antecedents in the city of Petra, which was located around 600 miles further north, suggesting that Petra could have possibly been the model which was then subsequently used for the later Mecca.

There were 9 areas in particular which caught his attention:

1) The valleys referred to in the later traditions by Ibn Ishaq, and in Al Bukhari (2:645, 2:685,
3:891, 2:815, 2:820, and 4:227) and also in the Qur'an (Surah 48:24) are not in Mecca at all, but can be found in Petra.

2) The 'Thenaya's' (thin corridors between cliffs) referred to in the Biblical account of Abraham visiting Hagar are not anywhere in Mecca, but they are all over Petra.

3) The reference to the god 'Allah' does not originate in Mecca, nor even in the Hejaz, but is the generic title for the Petran Nabatean god, Dusharah. What's more Allah has a wife, whose title is 'Al lat', though her name is 'Al Uzza', the names of two of the goddesses in the Qur'an's 'Satanic Verses' (Surah 53:19-20), proving that the god and goddesses of the Qur'an are from Petra, not Mecca.

4) Recent research is proving that the Arabic used in the Qur'an does not originate from Mecca, or from the Hejaz, but comes from Petra.

5) The Ka'aba, including its exact dimensions, referenced by Azraki, fit exactly the dimensions of the Ka'aba in Petra, and not that in Mecca.

6) The "mountains" of Safah and Marwah, which are mere stones around 15-20 feet high in Mecca, are both found in Petra, and there they are indeed mountains.

7) The streams supposedly in Mecca (Al Bukhari 2:685) are nowhere in Mecca, which only has one well, the ZamZam well, while streams and waterways, and water wells are all found in Petra.

8) The plain of Muzdallifah and the mountain of Arafat are nowhere near the Ka'aba in Mecca, but situated a few kilometers away, while they are all near the Ka'aba in Petra.

9) The Jamaraat, where Muslims throw 49 or 72 stones at the devil, are multiplied to 3 towers in Mecca (i.e. 3 devils?), whereas the Jamaraat foundation is not only situated in Petra, but it only includes 1 tower, signifying only one devil.

It seems everything that was borrowed and moved down to Mecca by the Abbasids in the mid to late 8th century, previously existed in the much more northerly city of Petra long before, suggesting that Petra was the previous sanctuary, first used by the Nabateans, and then by the Umayyads, but changed later on to Mecca by the Abbasids, retaining the 5 stages of the Hajj, as well as their language, and their gods.

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