Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Derek from the “More Plates More Dates Podcast.” They discuss Derek's journey into the fitness industry, how he became a main player in the “manosphere,” developing self motivation, effective ways to find a mentor, and how to recognize when the adventure of your life is calling.
Derek is the founder of the “More Plates More Dates” YouTube channel, where he discusses strategies to optimize your health and nutrition. He is also a co-founder of the preventative medicine company called Marek Health.
This episode was recorded on January 29th, 2024
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(0:00) Tour update 2024, coming up
(1:06) Intro
(2:51) Derek started the “More Plates More Dates” blog, which evolved into his YouTube channel and podcast
(5:21) Early advice from Victor Pride, the value of a like-minded mentor, staying in tune with new tech in order to grow an online viewership
(7:23) Derek’s need to write due to personal injury, how the manipulation of search algorithms has led to lapsed credibility even when fact-checked
(13:12) Feelings of greater calling, forming a covenant with the spirit that guides us
(15:48) The interplay of true calling and relative success
(18:28) Why Derek turned to writing, connections to the “Manosphere”
(20:11) Jocko Willink, acknowledging your capability for harm in order to evoke positive change in others
(21:54) Realizing what you’re supposed to write about, positioning yourself to avoid obstacles
(28:04) Balancing quality with the necessity of communication
(30:18) 2022 Elvis Biopic: how Presley paired a culturally suppressed music style with the emerging popularity of rock’n roll
(31:35) Respect for your audience needs to be aligned with the desire to broaden influence
(32:13) Be obsessed with your interests until you are the expert, insights on male stubbornness gained from the Future Authoring Program
(35:14) When abstract knowledge stacks on genuine expertise
(38:06) Feeling weak, using objective metrics to stay motivated against fatigue
(40:23) Tempering expertise for the communication of ideas to early zones of proximal development
(43:59) The Acton Academy’s philosophy on mentorships
(46:20) Positioning yourself as competent so a prospective mentor will be excited to say “yes”
(48:47) Experts must be highly selective of who they associate with
(51:43) What working ten percent longer will do immediately for your paycheck, and long-term for your career
(54:48) How Derek weaponized early mornings, silence, and fasting to stay mentally dialed-in to his writing goals
(58:11) Outgrowing the 23-year-old mindset, underlying importance of symmetry and optimized health in sexual attraction
(1:01:26) How Derek grew to appreciate mental and cognitive health in addition to physical health
(1:04:45) The core attractor that is seldom taught to men
(1:07:40) How writing helps streamline the facilitation process of ideas
(1:11:08) Everything has gone spectacularly well when you can end it on a punch line, have a problem in mind you genuinely want to solve
(1:11:50) Market testing: the audience will tell you what they want
(1:12:43) From writing to video, hyper-accelerated exposure, and how the bottleneck effect comes into play for cross-platform content
(1:14:02) Aligning personal interest with broader necessity for understanding
(1:16:50) The feminine imagery in “Sleeping Beauty,” building fortitude against the harsh scrutiny of the dating market
(1:18:01) How Derek’s growth on YouTube led to multiple positive business ventures
(1:19:19) Plunging the depths, the symbolism of the essence of being as it appears in Moses’ encounter with the burning bush
(1:22:30) Reaching a point of expertise that allows for ease of growth and spontaneous innovation
(1:25:13) Proofing self-confidence against potential delusion and error
(1:29:46) How Marek Health prioritizes curative and preventive treatment over last-resort symptom suppression
(1:41:41) Death statistics among bodybuilders, Marek's plans to tackle the cause
(1:44:43) Holding on to calling and progressing toward his best potential
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We had the honor of having our dear friend Jonathan Pageau host this Beyond Order lecture in Montreal on May 23rd, 2022. Jonathan opens the show by describing how he first heard (and subsequently met) Jordan. This event, then, serves as a continuation of the conversations they first had. Throughout this hour-and-a-half-long event, Dr. Peterson and Jonathan Pageau discuss perception, symbolism, values, and the relationship between perception and the cognitive scientist’s attempts to understand consciousness.
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https://orthodoxartsjournal.org (writing)
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0:00 — Intro
4:55 — Dr. Peterson enters the stage
8:00 — Perception, Cognitive Science, and the problem of bodyless AI
11:30 — The visual cliff experiment & perceiving the world
18:30 — The awe of infinity & complexity of the Heavens
21:00 — Awe, imitation, & why humans celebrate
28:00 — The role of sacrifice & delaying gratification
32:00 — Egyptian gods & ancient symbolism
36:00 — Pyramids vs. mountains in The Bible
44:00 — The cost of not aiming properly
52:30 — Bottom-up vs. top-down conceptualizations of the world
57:00 — Sam Harris
1:05:00 — Why the Diversity, Inclusivity, and Equity types are taking on STEM
1:10:00 — Is it possible to create values from scratch? Nietzsche, Freud, & Jung
1:16:00 — Why go to church?
1:22:00 — Q&A
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Dr. Jordan B Peterson and cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Donald Hoffman discuss what we know as reality, why space time is now being considered a “doomed” framework, and how consciousness can be understood as a vast probability space within which we orient ourselves.
Hoffman received a Bachelor of Arts degree in quantitative psychology from the University of California at Los Angeles, and then his Doctorate of Philosophy in computational psychology at MIT. He briefly worked as a research scientist at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab, before taking on the role of assistant professor at the University of California at Irvine. He is now a professor in the department of Cognitive Sciences. He has written four books (below), on the topics of human vision, perception, consciousness, and the effects of/reasons for evolution on each. He is also a key proponent of MUI (Multimodal User Interface) theory, which states that "perceptual experiences do not match or approximate properties of the objective world, but instead provide a simplified, species-specific, user interface to that world." Hoffman argues that conscious beings have not evolved to perceive the world as it actually is but have evolved to perceive the world in a way that maximizes "fitness payoffs.”
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(0:53) Coming up
(1:24) Intro
(2:30) Dr. Hoffman's theory of perception
(5:12) Fitness payoffs
(10:40) How has “reality” been shaped by evolution?
(19:19) Iconography, constraints, and pragmatism
(24:25) The VR headset analogy, the underlying reality
(28:54) Levels of potential patterning, “specifying the grip”
(38:08) Consciousness as conceptualized in mythology
(40:55) Why spacetime is a doomed framework, the theory of conscious agents
(47:53) Karl Friston, anxiety, and entropy
(52:59) How anxiety disorders warp your probability space
(55:25) Time is the fundamental limited resource
(58:41) Our reality is a projection of what lies deeper
(1:00:29) Every scientific endeavor starts with inherent axioms of faith
(1:06:34) Dawkins, reproduction, and the role of sex
(1:14:48) Is consciousness the primary reality?
(1:17:14) That which God lacks
(1:19:47) When the math backs the impossible
(1:24:50) There is no theory of everything
(1:25:45) Evolutionary game theory
(1:29:03) What lies beyond spacetime absolutely matters within it
(1:32:00) How has this understanding of reality affected Dr. Hoffman existentially?
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I'm doing a 14 venue tour in Australia and New Zealand. The first shows sold out, so there's wasn't much point announcing them by video. However, seats are still available for Wellington (21/02), Auckland (23/02), Sydney (26/02), Melbourne (27/02) and Brisbane (28/02). Hope to see you there.
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Steven Bonnell II, also known as Destiny. They discuss the differences between the left and the right, force versus invitation, the feasibility and pitfalls of command economies, the dangers of ideology, and government response to worldwide crises.
Destiny, also known as Steven Bonnell II, is a prominent political commentator and content creator known for his debate skills and provocative takes on various issues. With a passion for gaming, politics, and philosophy, Destiny engages in lively discussions that often challenge the status quo.
This episode was recorded on February 3rd, 2024
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(0:00) Tour info 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(1:18) Intro
(2:22) Early days of streaming, how Steven entered political commentary
(7:40) Changes in thinking: shifting to the left
(12:11) The key differences between left and right worldviews
(13:29) Intervention, distribution, gigantism, and populism
(23:42) Redistribution and command economies, can they work?
(29:32) Negative externalities, balancing free markets with incentivized behavior and their effects on the poor
(37:34) Climate and economic models: two Towers of Babel
(40:57) The timeframe of C02 models changes the outlook, so how far back should we consider?
(43:12) The green guise of compassion obscures underlying intent
(47:34) The psychology of those who utter, “There are too many people on the planet”
(49:46) Destiny’s Jenga Tower, an analogy for how people become stuck in their beliefs
(57:00) Why people fear nuclear energy
(58:30) Realities of the green energy pipe dream
(1:00:32) Is it malevolence or ignorance that drives bad ideas? Motives versus public perception
(1:03:19) Both parties wield power when they have it, so how do we mitigate it?
(1:07:37) Was WWII Germany right or left wing?
(1:09:19) Moses and the desert
(1:13:56) Living in separate realities and bridging the divide
(1:15:50) MRNA, validity of rollout and excess deaths
(1:24:34) It wasn’t just the left
(1:26:27) Weighing the fear of a crisis against the use of experimental technology
(1:30:00) Mass consensus
(1:37:38) Psychopathy and levels of malevolence
(1:43:10) Do marriage and society exist without force?
(1:47:50) Tit-for-tat, force or justice?
(1:59:11) Why Steven debates
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Dr. Peterson, James Orr, and Arif Ahmed discuss bureaucracy and free speech at The University of Cambridge, isolation, social media, the Pareto principle, fear-shaped mental illnesses, how a "confident minority" turns into an "unassailable orthodoxy" and why, if left unattended, free speech issues - like wounds - worsen long before they improve.
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This episode was recorded on September 9th.
Dr. Jordan Peterson and John Anderson exchange ideas about the freedom of conscience, policies, and mandatory vaccines. Dr. Jordan shares his experience with policies while Anderson shares tips on conducting proper debates while commenting on the governmental debates. See how Australia connects to their discussion and how social media came into play.
John Anderson is a sixth-generation farmer and grazier from New South Wales, who spent 19 years in the Australian Parliament. After serving in politics, Anderson launched a web-based interview program, Conversations with John Anderson, featuring interviews with public intellectuals. He continues to serve the interests of Australia’s rural and regional communities.
Find more John Anderson on his website https://johnanderson.net.au/
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● [00:00] Dr. Peterson introduces this week’s guest, John Anderson.
● [03:32] "The problem with fighting fire with fire is that you end up burning." Dr. Peterson
● [03:54] What’s happening in Australia and the west?
● [04:26] John’s tips for proper debates.
● [06:17] How Anderson views Australia’s regime.
● [06:40] China’s imposed threat on Australia.
● [09:09] John quoting Henry Kissinger on freedom.
● [09:47] The legality of mandatory vaccines in western culture and the blitz story during WWII in Britain.
● [11:48] Anderson’s analogy of democracy.
● [14:31] Dr. Peterson’s advice on policies.
● [16:05] The lockdowns in Australia.
● [22:07] Dr. Peterson’s perspective towards proper political force on vaccinations.
● [21:26] The cost of safety.
● [25:29] John’s opinion on debates.
● [26:56] Breaking down trust in the government.
● [31:53] How governmental debates should be conducted.
● [37:21] Freedom of Conscious.
● [43:10] The best rationale for mandatory vaccines.
● [53:01] Lockdowns and the dangers of mandating medical procedures.
● [59:46] The power of social media and John’s thoughts on moving forward.
● [01:02:19] Social media and John's podcast.
● [01:06:47] Anderson’s thoughts on freedom and governments.
● [01:10:15] Australian politicians' understanding of social media.
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My wife, Tammy, and I toured Australia and New Zealand in February. I was lecturing about the topics covered in my book, 12 Rules for Life (and also Maps of Meaning, my first book). I had a number of the lectures professionally filmed. This is a highlight from my lecture in Auckland on the fundamental necessity of the presumption of innocence.
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This episode was recorded today, February 5th, 2022.
Dr. Julie Ponesse has a PhD in Philosophy (Western, 2008) with areas of specialization in ethics and ancient philosophy. She has a Masters in Philosophy with Collaborative Specialization in Bioethics from the University of Toronto and a Diploma in Ethics from the Kennedy Institute of Ethics at Georgetown University. Dr. Ponesse has published in the areas of ancient philosophy, ethical theory, and applied ethics, and has taught at universities in Canada and the US for 20 years.
In the fall of 2021, Dr. Ponesse saw her academic career of 20 years fall apart after she refused to comply with a Canadian university's COVID vaccine mandate. In response, Dr. Ponesse recorded a special video directed to her first-year ethics students. That video went viral.
Since the release of that video, Dr. Ponesse has joined The Democracy Fund as the Pandemic Ethics Scholar focussing on educating the public on civil liberties.
'My Choice' book by Dr. Julie Ponesse: https://www.mychoicebook.ca/
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