Steff is a poet and Autumn is a novelist. We talk about the writing economy, grad school for poetry, canceling yourself, how Autumn almost won the Passage Prize for right-wing fiction, how to stay free inside the institutions, how Autumn won Steff's heart with a meme about Hitler, how to think about success as a writer today, whether Curtis Yarvin's poetry is good, and Steff's call for suitors (DMs open). Steff ✦ Steff on Twitter: https://twitter.com/poetrygrifter ✦ Steff's website: https://poetrygrifter.wordpress.com Autumn Christian ✦ Teach Robots Love: https://teachrobotslove.substack.com ✦ Autumn on Twitter: https://twitter.com/teachrobotslove ✦ Autumn's novels: https://www.amazon.com/Autumn-Christian/e/B006QJ5USQ Other Life ✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co ✦ Get a free Urbit planet at https://imperceptible.computer ✦ We're building a new country at https://imperceptible.country IndieThinkers.org ✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org 0:00 Intro 1:23 Autumn's literary work & self-cancellation 7:35 Steff's poetic work, grad school experience, & online journey 13:15 Independent vs institutional writing & the distribution of power 18:27 Is Twitter a serious platform for writers? 24:04 How to think about success as a writer today 25:48 The Substack phenomenon 29:32 The hottest underground sh*t right now 32:27 Dissecting the poetry of Curtis Yarvin 35:32 "Hypnosis poetry" & protecting against polyamorous perverts 39:33 The cultural stagnation of the alternative writing scene 42:15 Outsider lit, pathological writing, & anonymity vs face-faggotry 49:00 How Autumn won Steff's heart with a meme about Hitler 51:10 Buc-ee's nationalism 52:23 Almost winning the Passage Prize for right-wing fiction 59:39 How to stay free inside academic institutions 1:08:46 Biggest mistakes as a writer 1:10:59 Steff's dating-advert poem & her call for suitors 1:14:56 Favorite writer/poet? 1:16:29 Finding Steff & Autumn, & their work 1:16:51 'After the Singularity,' a poem by Steff ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE0hQwDeZy8

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