TFTRH #45: Brandon Fugal - The Owner of Skinwalker Ranch
Brandon Fugal is a prominent business leader based in Utah and is the current owner of the mysterious Skinwalker Ranch, which is the focus of a wide variety of reported strange phenomena, from supernatural visitors to cattle mutilations and UFOs. The ranch is now the subject of a History channel show: The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. I've been doing a little debunking of a few of the claims in the show. We talk about how he discovered the ranch, why he bought it, what he's been doing with it. We also discuss some of the issues with the show - is it science or showmanship? Maybe a little of both.
Ryan became a conspiracy theorist at age 15. He spent five years solidly down the 9/11 conspiracy rabbit hole, believing that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed with pre-planted explosives. As he grew older he eventually encountered other conspiracy theories that he recognized as being not well-grounded in evidence. Questioning these theories led him to question his own beliefs about 9/11, and eventually to escape from the rabbit hole.
We talk about the factors that led to his conspiracism, his experiences as a conspiracy theorist, and how he got out.
Podcast Episode
https://www.tftrh.com/2020/08/29/episode-46-ryan-growing-out-of-9-11/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9myjAPfB7A
Sunset contrails sometimes look like UFOs, especially when they are shot. What you need is a really good zoom lens. Then you can get up close and see it's just a plane
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTEZarmsG8Q
While these images might look like a giant streak of light in the sky above some mountains, they actually show something on the ground - the Solana solar power station in Arizona. It's hazy, so you can't see the ground, but the super-bright reflected sunlight shines through.
Images source: https://youtu.be/OqZh-0oayqc?t=191
Solana power station: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solana_Generating_Station
Location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2%B055'00.0%22N+112%C2%B058'00.0%22W/@32.9004007,-112.8968457,4883a,35y,280.5h,56.74t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x30b6cabc80e1c05d!8m2!3d32.916667!4d-112.966667?hl=en
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NneoVAGvm1w
In 1990 a material called "Starlite" was demonstrated on the BBC's Tomorrow's World. It had what seemed like impressive fire-resisting properties, most famously protecting an egg from a butane blowtorch.
But was it really all that amazing? I set out to try to make my own Starlite, and to recreate the BBC demo as closely as possible, in real time.
It turns out Starlite is perhaps not quite as impressive as it seems.
https://www.metabunk.org/how-to-make-starlite-the-miracle-insulating-material-of-maurice-ward.t10228/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9FjI2rGL_c
A common "UFO" type is a white blob, often longer than it is tall, slowly moving across the sky. Described as a "Tic-Tac" or "Cigar" shaped white object, what these things most frequently turn out to be are planes. At a high altitude or long distance away it's hard to make out details. The underside of the wings is not in sunlight like the fuselage, so they do not stand out.
Here I go through the process of identifying one of these planes. You need to find three things:
1) Where is the video taken from?
2) When was the video taken exactly, and what's that in the UTC timezone used for tracking planes?
3) (Optional but useful) What direction is the camera pointing in?
With those three things in hand, it's a relatively simple matter of plugging then into FlightRadar24.com, and running a replay of the air traffic at the right time and place.
In this case, I was able to easily identify the plane as Air Moldova Flight 834
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9lkspThboM
Don't just take the word of scientists who tell you that light bends towards dense air. You can actually check it for yourself!
While this is a fun science experiment, it's also of relevance to believers in the "Flat Earth" conspiracy theory. Observations of distant object are often affected by refraction, so a discussion of this will go better if you (and they) have some practical experience of how refraction in air works.
Transcript:
Science tells us that light bends towards air that is more dense. When looking towards the horizon this generally bends the light down because air less dense as you get higher.
If there's large changes in temperature then this can change things. Low cold air bends the light down more, low warm air will bend the light upwards, sometimes creating mirages.
But how can you demonstrate this for yourself? It's actually easy to do with common items. Take a laser pointer and bounce it off a mirror at the other end of the longest room you have (about 30 feet here). This makes the position of the dot very sensitive to small bends at the start of the laser beam.
Then take a flame and put it next to the laser. Heating up the air makes it expand, which makes it less dense. So the laser bends away from it and towards the cooler air further from the flame.
For cold air take a large ice pack, or even a tray of ice cubes, and position it under the beam. This cools the air directly above the ice, making the more dense, and so bends the beam downwards towards the cold dense air.
What about changes in pressure? I took a plywood board and slammed it down onto the beam. This compresses the air ahead of the board, making it more dense, so you'd expect the first movement of the beam to be upwards. This is hard to see in this shot, but it is measurable. If we repeat it in slow motion this initial movement becomes more obvious, up towards the wave of higher pressure, more dense air.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh3BmK7NzDc
Steel wool does not need a particularly hot flame to ignite and form microspheres. Here I ignite some steel wool with a piece of burning wood.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y12ri1fNDEQ
“Paradigm Shift” is the name used by a poster on Metabunk. Paradigm Shift had made many posts about 9/11, and the need, as he sees it, for a new investigation to look into the possibility of explosives being used to bring down the twin towers. Online discussions can be slow-moving and fractious, so I asked him to come on the podcast for a more detailed and direct conversation about what we believe, and why we believe it.
Plane Crash into Empire State Building - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4i_uH49B08
NIST Reports of 2005 (WTC1 & WTC2) and 2008 (WTC7) - https://www.nist.gov/engineering-laboratory/final-reports-nist-world-trade-center-disaster-investigation
Video of WTC7 Fires - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW7CACDE-oU
Windsor Tower Fire and Partial Collapse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKvgD9NyIi4
Mick West Debating Tony Szamboti - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1CZmtR8gno
Operation Paperclip (German Scientists Recruited Post WWII) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
Operation Mockingbird (CIA’s infiltration of the Media from the 1950s to 1970s) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
The Last Column at Ground Zero, removed May 28 2002. (seven months after collapse) - https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/29/nyregion/last-steel-column-from-the-ground-zero-rubble-is-cut-down.html
Book: Nine Months at Ground Zero – Stout, Vitchers, & Gray - https://amzn.to/2NCoVKi
Book: After 9-11: An Engineer’s Work at the World Trade Center – Donald Friedman (Description of welds snapping p.104) - https://amzn.to/323R7tS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM7tC4RfC-k