**Religion, Myth, Science, Truth** | an evening with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson *** Table of Contents: 0:00​ INTRO: PETERSON'S JOURNEY 9:45​ RELIGION: CROWD-CONTROL, NAIVE SCIENCE, OR NEITHER? 10:08​ "They're straw man arguments" 11:45​ Multiple motivational systems, different levels of thinking 13:32​ Fundamental presuppositions 14:13​ Dawkins vs. Christianity: like a "smart 13 year old boy" 14:44​ SCIENTISTS MISREADING RELIGION 15:52​ Different systems of thought, different purposes 16:00​ More than one basic assumption is possible 17:13​ ENTER: DOMINANCE HIERARCHIES 17:19​ What's real is what's persistent across time 17:33​ Dominance hierarchies and lobsters 17:58​ We're evolutionarily adapted to hierarchies 18:14​ HIERARCHIES, RELIGIOUS THINKING, AND SUBJECTIVITY 18:42​ "Being" as not reducible to material reality 19:12​ The road to nihilism and authoritarianism 19:57​ DETERMINING THE TRUTH OF A THEORY 20:07​ Newton or Darwin? Choose one. You can't have both. 20:20​ Nitzche's "Truth serves life" is a Darwinian idea 20:38​ No idea if our knoweldge will help us survive over deep time 20:50​ Answer to: "But look what we've built with it" 21:20​ Crossing Ebola and Smallpox: some science is clearly insane 22:30​ Check your assumptions about reality 23:45​ Darwinism: truth is what enables survival within chaos, period. 25:03​ Dawkins is a Newtonian not a Darwinian 26:09​ Reductionism leaves things out. This has consequences. 27:27​ The pragmatic problem: truth for what? 28:09​ DEEP DARWINISM & RELIGION 28:15​ Religion as evolved knowledge about action 29:40​ American Pragmatist philosophers: the true Darwinians 30:17​ Godel, the stock market and reality 31:02​ TRUTH AS ACTION 31:44​ Truth from the bottom up: lobsters, wolves, humans 34:27​ Ethics: evolved patterns in dominance hierarchies 39:23​ Dogs, chimps and humans: hierarchy navigators 44:45​ From dominance hierarchies to archetypes: ancient Egypt 52:36​ The soul 55:50​ Jung on Christianity, truth and speech 59:07​ Truth versus the lie 1:00:52​ THE INTELLECT 1:00:52​ The totalitarian intellect 1:02:43​ Have you made thinking your God? 1:03:38​ Attention trumps thinking 1:04:11​ EVOLUTIONARY ROOTS OF WESTERN RELIGION 1:04:33​ Christ as a metahero 1:04:43​ The deep roots of myth 1:07:00​ Chaos monsters 1:08:55​ Myth as behavioural truth 1:09:37​ "Darwin trumps Newton" 1:10:02​ "Dawkins is a rationalist...not a darwinian" 1:10:07​ Darwinian time, Darwinian truth 1:13:57​ Mesopotamian myth as successful behaviour blueprint 1:17:36​ FROM NATURE TO HERO MYTHOLOGY 1:19:33​ Religious stories model being as a field for action 1:21:13​ Our religious task 1:21:47​ Religion as hero mythology 1:22:30​ "You...don't know that you know the story." 1:23:58​ PIAGET AND PRE-RATIONAL MORALITY 1:25:16​ We learn to act before we learn the rules 1:26:18​ Moses the Judge: observer of emergent moral patterns 1:27:54​ "Opiate of the masses" as naive industrial era thinking 1:28:43​ METAPHORICAL THOUGHT 1:29:11​ Hyperactive agency detection module: it goes deeper 1:31:00​ The brain as archetype detection organ 1:32:08​ Women are nature 1:33:48​ Metaphor, myth and science 1:36:00​ SCIENCE AND MORAL TRUTH 1:37:52​ Are all scientists devoted to the truth? 1:39:44​ How do we judge if science is ethical? 1:42:57​ Evil as archetypically real 1:44:06​ The reality of good and evil 1:45:09​ Science and mythology: which is embedded in which? 1:48:17​ EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY AND DEEP TIME 1:49:13​ RELIGIOUS METAPHYSICS: OPTIONAL? 1:49:20​ Is God an old man with a beard in the sky? 1:51:12​ Hurricane Katrina, corruption and poverty 1:52:12​ The significance of the bible 1:53:43​ The genius of the sacrifice 1:55:50​ INTERLUDE: TRIANGULATING MEANING 1:58:02​ END OF RELIGION? 1:58:02​ On new atheists' claims of a secular rational future 1:58:29​ On new age spirituality 1:58:49​ New atheist rationalist optimism so absurd it must be motivated 1:59:18​ REDUCING RELIGION VS. EXPANDING EVOLUTION 1:59:40​ "[Jungian alternative]...is terrifying [for people]" 1:59:57​ "[Jung's work]...puts enlightenment thinkers to shame" 2:00:17​ "Which ideas have you? ... We're like playthings of the gods" 2:01:09​ JUNG: STUDYING INFORMATION, NOT MATTER 2:02:23​ "If you study religion properly, it'll demolish your personality" 2:08:16​ METAPHOR VS REALITY: NOT OBVIOUS 2:10:11​ Ancients: phenomenologists, not scientists 2:12:24​ Religion as spatial 2:13:24​ HUMANS: EFFICIENT COMPLEXITY MANAGERS 2:13:48​ Reality in terms of resolution 2:15:52​ There's lots worse than death 2:16:46​ On Becker's "The Denial of Death": smart but mistaken 2:19:40​ Death's not the problem, it's complexity 2:21:06​ THE MULTICULTURAL DIMENSION 2:27:35​ FROM THEORY TO ACTION 2:28:40​ Fixing what bugs you 2:29:30​ Overcoming the lie 2:31:54​ Peterson's experience with truth 2:34:45​ The most powerful thing we can do

Is the city a toaster (an object) or a cat (a living organism)? Hope in Source's Henry and Nadia are joined by Dr. Timothy Patitsis to talk about how physical and digital spaces, like liturgy, can be understood as "the work of the people". They discuss science as organized complexity, the meaning of knowledge, recursive societies, fractal hierarchies, and implications for governance. Dr. Timothy Patitsas has been Assistant Professor of Orthodox Christian Ethics at the Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology in Boston, Massachusetts since 2005. His dissertation, The King Returns to His City: An Interpretation of the Great Week and Bright Week Cycle of the Orthodox Church, combined interests in complexity theory, liturgy, urbanism, and the economic and political writings of Jane Jacobs. For original audio and show notes: http://hopeinsource.com/city/