On January 24, 2021 on ABC News 'This Week', George Stephanopoulos argued with Senator Rand Paul about election fraud. What Senator Paul said has been proven to be correct.

George Stephanopoulos: Senator Paul, let me begin with a threshold question for you. this election was not stolen. Do you accept that fact?

Rand Paul: Well, what I would say is that the debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur. We never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question. There were several states in which the law was changed by the Secretary of State, and not the state legislature.

To me, those are clearly unconstitutional. And I think there's a there's still a chance that those actually do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court. Courts traditionally and historically don't like to hear election questions. But yes, where there are people who voted twice where they're dead, people who voted, were there illegal aliens who voted? Yes. And we should get to the bottom of it.

I'll give you an example. In my state, when we had a Democrat Secretary of state, she refused, even under federal order, to purge the rolls of illegal voters. We got a Republican secretary of state and he purged the rolls and those things do make a difference and those things do have to stop.

Stephanopoulos: Senator Paul, I have to stop you there. No, no, no, election is perfect, but there were 86 challenges filed by President Trump and his allies in court, all were dismissed. Every state certified the results.

Rand Paul: Not for, but not for discussion of evidence, they were dismissed for standing.

Stephanopoulos: After investigations counts and recounts the Department of Justice, led by William Barr, said there's no widespread evidence of fraud. Can't you just say the words this election was not Stolen.

Rand Paul: What I would suggest is what I would suggest is that if we want greater confidence in our elections, and 75% of Republicans agree with me, is that we do need to look at election integrity, and we do need to see if we can, restore confidence in the elections.

Stephanopoulos: Well, 75% of Republicans agree with you because they were fed a big lie by President Trump and his supporters who say the election was stolen. Why can't you say President Biden won a legitamate and fair election.

Rand Paul: well, I think we're unified in this one think you make a mistake, hey, George. George, George, where you make a mistake is that people coming from the liberal side like you, you immediately say everything's a lie instead of saying there are two sides to everything. Historically, what would happen is if I said that I thought there was fraud. You would interview someone else who said there wasn't. But now you insert yourself in the middle and say, the absolute fact is that everything I'm saying is a lie.

Stephanopoulos: Well, because Senator, I said, what the president said was a lie because he said, hold on a second, he said the election was stolen this election was not stolen. This, the results were certified in every single state after counts and recounts

Rand Paul: Your saying, Your saying, your saying, you're saying that absolutely, it was, you're saying there was no fraud and it's all been investigated and that's just not true.

That's not what I said, sir. I said the Department of Justice found no evidence.

Rand Paul: Let me finish.

Stephanopoulos: Let finish my point. You said lies

Rand Paul: We're all liars. your saying we're all liars. You're just simply saying we're all liars.

Stephanopoulos: And I said it was a lie that the election was stolen.

Rand Paul: Your just stating the premise that you're right and we're wrong. Well, let's, let's talk about the specifics of it. In Wisconsin, tens of thousands of absentee votes had only the name on them and no address. Historically, those were thrown out. This time they weren't. They made special accommodations because they said, oh, it's a pandemic and people forgot what their address was. So they changed the law after the fact. That is wrong. That's unconstitutional. And I plan on spending the next two years going around state to state and fixing these problems. And I won't be cowed by liberals in the media who say there's no evidence here and you're a liar if you talk about election fraud. No, let's have an open debate. It's a free country.

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