My Saturday routine. ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL0pNscx1kQ

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/15358593.2017.1367830 Media Ecology orientations (computer read of a portion of) to philosophy and philsophical problems Anton's writing above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuAWMVinsho&feature=youtu.be Testing out logical arguments against an Aron Ra comment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qBuzjGlrwM&t=635s My dospook's Embedded Contradiction Steve Mcrae above ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFZobr-K6Z0

References to Fred are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9khPyjEk_pM to Gary are: http://www.youtube.com/user/inmendham I didn't do Fred justice with this video but my intent with it was not to win an argument with Fred but to bring light to types of arguments held when speaking about vegetarianism. Arguments seem to stem from.... SUFFERING: pain neuronal firing. Lobby to anesthetize. Distinguish between 'stress free, pain free domestication' and 'stressful, painful domestication'. Fred argues that wild animals already have a heightened sense of stress. So domestication seems to alleviate this. RIGHT: Stop animal slaughter because it is simply not right....Comparative ethics seem to hold up relative to quality of life, but fail when considering attempts to empathize with concepts of death (as the concept of death is not (often) granted to animal psychologies). Rationalization seems to appear when comparing our involvement in one industry which is Not Right with another that is Not Right. Animal & Oil. . Rape, Slavery analogical comparisons seem to hold up relative to quality of life issues in so much that the quality of life is ongoing post trauma. Where (if after life is excluded) ending Life has no post trauma to maintain the comparative analogy. AESTHETIC: we don't like the idea or sight of animal death.... I believe this to be the main argument, and is probably justified scientifically via the firing of empathetic / sympathetic neurons within ourselves. Where identification or firings do not occur when we do not have an approximation to that being which is suffering. immediate empathic senses with regards to small insects is probably due to our lack of being able to see the wriggling of an insect fighting for it's life. And we do not have enough propaganda to or identification with lower animals like insects. Other mammals, in sensory proximity to us, seem to initiate our empathic neurons to fire and cause an emotional reaction. This seems to be the case with entities we have 'acquaintance with' moreso than just knowledge about . We/I DO NOT LIKE TO SEE THIS. THIS IS UGLY THEREFORE STOP. ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0t1gJ3r_sc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7XI9RrV9o ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaLvfU1oRc