Logic demands God's existence as TAG presents because even to argue against either logic or God is to presuppose God's existence. TIMELINE: 00:00 - TAG In An Outline 02:25 - To Argue Against God Is To Presuppose Him 03:44 - TAG In A Nutshell 06:21 - Logic Demands God's Existence #JohnFrame #Apologetics #Presuppositionalism #Transcendental Today's short clip comes from episode 214 which can be found here - https://youtu.be/_Yek96XI9EM The episode link is https://www.cavetothecross.com/ep214/ ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFKJU7dOTVs

Continuing our look at the Walter Bauer hypothesis, we look at 3 more claims about early Christian orthodoxy. Were the leaders too biased to be good witnesses and chose what teachings made it in? Then the claim that central church leaders won by force of will what beliefs came out on top. Finally, moving into the 2nd/3rd century shows challenges & invasions of the church, but do we see those in the church just making up teachings? The claims are many but the proof is lacking. Timeline: 00:00 - Introduction 01:27 - Claim #4 - Orthodox Winners Are Too Biased & Chose What Got In 03:45 - Unbiased Observers Aren't Possible 09:23 - Claim #5 - Today's Established Orthodox Teachings Came Later By The Victors 11:24 - Jesus Commanded His Followers To Teach Others 12:35 - The Early Church Devoted Themselves To The Apostles Teaching 13:11 - Apostles Were Concerned With Correct Teaching In The Church 15:35 - Not Even The Apostles Were Authorized To Change Christ's Message 20:44 - The Old Testament Also Authoritative By The Early Church 21:41 - The Early Use Of Songs & Sacraments To Affirm Core Doctrines 23:23 - Claim #6 - 2nd & 3rd Century Church Leaders Made Up Orthodox Teachings. 24:14 - The Follow Of Rule Of Faith Shows How Cemented Orthodoxy Was. 29:11 - Conclusion BOOKS MENTIONED: Truth In A Culture Of Doubt by Andreas J. Köstenberger, Darrell L. Bock, and Josh Chatraw - https://amzn.to/2JX62lL Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament by G. K. Beale - https://amzn.to/2MMBPrs Handbook on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament: Exegesis and Interpretation by G. K. Beale - https://amzn.to/3jEEAHm Christianity at the Crossroads: How the Second Century Shaped the Future of the Church by Michael J. Kruger - https://amzn.to/3oeLR0Y The Heresy of Orthodoxy: How Contemporary Culture's Fascination with Diversity Has Reshaped Our Understanding of Early Christianity by Andreas J. Köstenberger & Michael J. Kruger - https://amzn.to/3odgzYw Episode Page - https://www.cavetothecross.com/ep111 #EarlyChristianity #Ehrman #TextualCriticism For more information on the show go to https://www.cavetothecross.com Subscribe on the following: Patreon - http://patreon.com/cavetothecross YouTube - https://tinyurl.com/y638gxoc iTunes - https://tinyurl.com/y59cexm7 Stitcher - https://tinyurl.com/yybepzo8 Google Play - https://tinyurl.com/y3mra4ap TuneIn & Amazon Echo Alexa - https://tinyurl.com/C2CATuneIn IHeartRadio - https://tinyurl.com/c2cihrtrad Spotify - https://tinyurl.com/C2CASpotify ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6DtawwjLfk