David Icke divides opinion. Fellow conspiracist Alex Jones famously called him ‘a turd in the punch bowl’, whilst Skeptiko’s Alex Tsakiris has him as one of the most original thinkers of our age. Is he a political iconoclast liberating minds, or a cult leader imprisoning them? Is he a spiritual visionary awakening people to their true nature, or a New Age guru peddling woo? Should he have a global platform on which to proclaim his ideas, or be censored for the public good? And does he really believe the queen is a shape shifting reptile? Donations in support of the show can be made at: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=ZL2DQE3EK446C Music: Crossing Over. Curtesy of Neutrin05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1M18G5Lo3k

The book is called Doppelganger, because Naomi Klein considers Naomi Wolf to be hers. Apparently these two ladies are often conflated, but whereas Klein broadly supports government COVID policies, Wolf couldn’t be more opposed to them, seeing them as part of a nefarious plot to do away with civil liberties and introduce a bio-fascist regime. Klein considers Wolf to be in ‘open warfare against objective reality.’ Endnotes for this show are available here: https://open.substack.com/pub/deepstateconsciousness/p/the-other-naomi-a-review-of-naomis?r=qmo44&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web Naomi Klein’s book, Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World, is available here: https://naomiklein.org/doppelganger/ Naomi Wolf’s writing and wider work is available here: https://dailyclout.io/ To support the show and for access to the forum: https://payhip.com/b/Sq0ZB Buy me a Coffee page: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/DSConsciousness

Dr. James Boswell holds a PhD in physics and writes on Geopolitical issues on his Wall of Controversy blog. In this interview he discusses his political awakening, the role that the collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7 played in that, and how he went from fervent believer to deeply cynical regarding the received scientific wisdom of global warming. I met James after he made a critical comment regarding my Contemplating Conspiracy interview with Alex Tsakiris. See Dr. Boswell’s blog Wall of Controversy: https://wallofcontroversy.wordpress.com/ Dr. Boswell also maintains a blog devoted to solely to September the 11th: https://whyistoppedbelieving911myth.wordpress.com/ See also Dr. Boswell’s presentation: Why I stopped believing the official 911 story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVnHeccLsQM

Recovered memories strongly influence various subcultures; from conspiracy theories, to a belief in past lives, right through to alien abductions. So are they reliable? Psychologists claim they are not. They say the boundary between memory and fantasy is much more porous than we take it to be, and it is entirely possible to rebrand fantasy as memory, up to and including inventing entire chunks of our biographies. Meanwhile, some psychotherapists believe they are regressing clients to childhood, where they can recover long repressed memories of abuse, and that doing so is an essential part of a healing process. Do either of these possibilities sound even remotely plausible? To support the show and for access to the forum and regular online meetups see: https://payhip.com/b/Sq0ZB Buy me a Coffee page: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/DSConsciousness Notes Mark Pendergrast, Memory Warp: https://markpendergrast.com/ (I had trouble getting a copy of Memory Warp where I live, so I read Mark's older book: Victims of Memory). Lilith Jean, YouTube channel containing multiple documentaries on False Memory: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuH7aAFMZ7g-WsSAoLq5_fg/videos Elizabeth Loftus, Satanic Child Abuse Claims Are Based on False Memories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSbcb3_QgsQ Julia Shaw, Is Your Memory an Illusion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owAeCKiM_4A Also see Dr. Shaw’s book The Memory Illusion: https://www.drjuliashaw.com/thememoryillusion Trance: Mind Control and Human Slavery - The Cathy O'Brien Story: https://odysee.com/@Harry_knowledge123:a/Trance-Mind-Control-and-Human-Slavery---The-Cathy-OBrien-Story-(2022-Full-Documentary):b